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Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending

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Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending - 2006/11/24 01:53 [b:d70689b24a]What are your chances of being attack?[/b:d70689b24a]

Most violence acts that occur can normally be prevented. It is well known that the chances of being attacked by a friend or acquaintance is higher that being attacked by a complete stranger. I am not saying that being attacked by and unknown assailant will never happen; however, I am saying that most violence is a result of the environment someone places themselves in, and the people they are with.

Places where you are more likely to experience violent acts generally involve some sort of substance that alters the state of mind. It is common sense that, if you are in a place where violence is common; you are more likely to be involved in some kind of violent situation.

Life Style also plays a major role in experiencing violence. If you are participating in an illegal act you are more likely to experience violence, once again common sense. If you think that you are the toughest crayon in this side of the box get ready to have your tip dragged across the page.

[b:d70689b24a]Before you find yourself in the middle of a street being attacked by an armed aggressor.[/b:d70689b24a]

If you choose to be in an area where violence happens and you do not want to be a statistic, the best piece of advice there is would be, to be aware of what is going on. Watch the people around you; how do they hold there hands. Hand positioning can be a major tip off when someone is armed and trying to hide their weapon. How are people reacting to your presence? Do you have 3 guys sizing you up from across the street? Keep in mind that most street assaults and muggings are ambushes; if you are able to spot this before anything even happens you already have the upper hand.

[b:d70689b24a]Safe Distance[/b:d70689b24a]

If someone walking down the street comes to close for your person comfort, tell them to back off; you may feel embarrassed for yelling at a stranger that had no intention other that going for some Chinese food, on the other hand, you may have said nothing and ended up with a blade 4 inches in your belly.

[b:d70689b24a]Equalizers, Speed, and Devastation[/b:d70689b24a]

Everything you own can be an equalizer, from your keys, to lose coins, to your starbucks coffee. If someone comes at you with a weapon and you have nothing but your bare hands, you reduce your chances of defending. Simply using a ball point pen as an equalizer will greatly improve your ability to defend.

If you are attacked you have no time to play around; you want to end the confrontation as quickly as possible. The longer time you take to end a fight, the more time his or her buddies have to pull out that pocket knife and shank you in the back. Moreover, at the same time you do not want to be careless. Never do anything without a purpose, if you are moving to get a better position, throw in an elbow to the bicep, or an eye gouge. Always keep your attackers guessing as to what you are going to do next.

[b:d70689b24a]The Difference between in-class self defense and real self defense[/b:d70689b24a]

When an aggressor attacks you on the street, you are under extreme amounts of pressure because at any given time your mistakes could cost you your life. Adrenaline will kick in, your palms will become sweaty, and you will react differently than you normally would. It is best to train self-defense under fatigue, stress, and while the adrenaline is still running throughout your body; this way you have a better understanding of how you will react in a real situation. However, no one can ever fully prepare for a real life encounter.
Respectfully,

Jonathan

"Some of us are like a 10 speed bike; most of us have gears we never use." - Joe Eigo

"the greatest gift that martial arts can give is destruction of the ego"

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re:Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending - 2006/11/24 20:53 Jonathan, this is a superb post.

I'm practicing for some 6-7 years Karate Kempo, Jujitsu and Ninjitsu 4-5 times a week. Luckily I've never had to defend myself in a life or death situation, but the subject troubles me and lately I've started reading data on street self defense.
Your post just add the simplest, most common sense to it.
I've never realized the most attacks are done by people you know.


Some more points about street self defense I've been reading lately:

- When you are attacked, the aggressor thinks he has an advantage over you. This might be because of an ambush, he has a couple of friends, he is way bigger than you, or he has a weapon.

- When attacked, it is seldom in a terrain that looks like a dojo. It could be on snow (forget about kicks...), with heavy cloth on (forget about speed...) or in a narrow passage, where you have very little space to maneuver.

- Your adrenaline runs so high, you loose peripheral vision and the ability to think.

- You are usually attacked on the street by street urchins.


Question:
What Do you practice? How many years?
Did you ever been in such a situation?
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re:Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending - 2006/11/25 19:02 [quote:78fa5d72b3="student"]Jonathan, this is a superb post.

Some more points about street self defense I've been reading lately:

- When attacked, it is seldom in a terrain that looks like a dojo. It could be on snow (forget about kicks...), with heavy cloth on (forget about speed...) or in a narrow passage, where you have very little space to maneuver.
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http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/548/cat/522

i think this video is a good example of being attacked in a narrow passage, against an angressor that has nothing to lose, and the advantage og surprise.

[quote:78fa5d72b3="student"]
Question:
What Do you practice? How many years?
Did you ever been in such a situation?[/quote:78fa5d72b3]

I train ICTF Taekwon-Do(we do punching to face), and have been doing that for about 5 years. I also train a form of Kali called Arnis De Cadena, which is a hybrid. The Arnis de Cadena curriculum is a blend of techniques learned from Mati Arnis, Ikatan Kali, Balintawak the Urban Survival Systems, Kali Ilustrisimo, as well as Muay Thai, and Systema. However, our system is not set in stone, it is constantly growing and evolving. We take what works and keep it, throw away what doesn't.

My Taekwon-Do Instructor - I started under Mr. Dana Johnson, now train under Mr. Cameran Macdonald

My Kali Instructor - Guro Joel Huncar


The closest I have ever come to have to defend against myself against an aggressor was, one of my buddys got really mad at me and put be against a wall and tryed to choke me out. I hammered him with a kick and he lost his balance, he wasn't trained in anything, and I have only been doing Taekwon-Do for 6 months.

Sparring my instructor used to be like self defense, when we knife sparred he would throw me into walls, and slam my hand against the wall. Once he threw me into his car, his wife was not happy about that one. It was all in good training though, he always encourages his students to use whatever they can to survive.

My instructor had a knife pulled on him once. He tells me he would have handled it differently but his first reaction was to grab the aggressors hand. While someone else grabbed the other arm. They just held him there and talked to him. Anyone trained in how to use a knife knows that is one of the worst positions to be in, by flicking your wrist you can use the knife to cut the defenders hand very easyly.
Respectfully,

Jonathan

"Some of us are like a 10 speed bike; most of us have gears we never use." - Joe Eigo

"the greatest gift that martial arts can give is destruction of the ego"

"Life is just a mountain, and each martial art is just another way to the top."

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Response On Another Forum - 2006/11/26 11:09 This is what someone else said in regards to my original post. Quoted from defend.net


Re: Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending

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For all the talk of prevention of violence in today's world, I wonder how many of these prevention measures have been real world tested.

We live in a world of have and have-nots, and one thing that rings true is that misery loves company. If someone is twisted and hateful and they decide to target you, all the prevention in the world isn't going to disuade them. Prevention concepts and verbal diffuses work on individuals who are somewhat rational. I personally never liked verbal diffuses too much because they interfere with the thought process of physical reaction. You can get caught up playing diplomat when you should be focused on your surroundings. Awareness should play a part in your everday life, not just in self defense situations. Be aware but don't focus, or you may miss something and become aware that you're getting your butt kicked.

The reality is that once someone has engaged you, there's little choice. There's a 3 foot rule that applies: If a man has crowded your 3 foot diameter, he has invaded your personal space. Once you sense something may be amiss, inform him of this FIRST, THEN take a step backwards. If he steps towards you after you step backwards, you now have your answer as to what situation you're in. At that point, its up to your discretion whether to go offensive or defensive. If the guy is clearly showing signs of aggression and intimidation, I say take it to him. If he's just arguing and being annoying, I say go defensive, but non-threatening. But whatever you do, don't mix thoughts. Be clear about what you're going to do before it even escalates. If you second guess yourself, that second may cause you alot of pain or worse: no pain ever again.

In a world filled with gangs, too many of you pretend that violence is only something you see on the news. And gangs are growing fast. Here in NY, we didn't have too many gangs since the 60's. Now, we have Bloods and Crips. Our hispanic population is growing rapidly, and so are the numbers of their gangs like Latin Kings and MS13. I'm talking an age group that ranges from 10 to 40 years old. Box cutter incidents. People getting jumped by multiple gang members. Rapes. Muggings in broad daylight. Its not just a night thing anymore. People are carrying weapons. People are still committing hate crimes. People are victims of road rage nearly everyday, and some of those incidents end up in fist fights, whether only one party or both wanted it that way. This is not limited to NY, but in every city. Its in the suburbs too. Violence will always be where there are people.

Bouncer usually consider themselves experts on violence. They feel that because they've won a few bar fights that they have intimate knowledge of street violence. That couldn't be further from the truth. I've been a bouncer. For some years at night clubs actually. Normally, there are so many other bouncers working with you that you never experience the "blood freeze" that you'd feel when facing danger alone. Also, its easy to be brave in a club if you've patted the patrons down. I've seen some guys go overboard and unnecessarily beat some club goers bloody. I've seen those same guys pussy up outside the club when someone who wasn't afraid was ready to hand their asses to them. They(the bouncer) didn't back down because they were using "prevention" techniques. They weren't being noble. Inside the club with 20 other bouncers he would have tried to beat the guy into a coma knowing he had backup. But outside in the street on his own, he was just another big guy who was scared because he didn't have an equalizer. Bouncers don't know that much about street violence if most of their experience comes from the bar/club because they're two different things. Two very different things. Its not only that most of the attacker's a bouncer will face are drunk, but they also usually aren't fighters. Just drunk aggressors.

I've seen throughout the years that not even policemen know as much about violence as correction officers do. Being locked in Riker's Island with the worst of the worst everday for 12 hour shifts is where its at. You don't know who's armed. You don't know who's plotting. All you know is that in that uniform you're a potential target everday for NY city's worst and most violent criminals. They sharpen tooth brushes. They fashion weapons out of glass and plastic. And they can strike any day, any time that they're not in cages. You never know. I've come to respect the many masters who do that job most because they have seen violence on a scale that most will never see it. Riots break out. They've been there. Stabbings and rapes. They've been there. They deal with men who are animalistic with rage everyday, so they know the reality. Many have been stabbed or cut on the arms, abdomen, face and neck. So when I've trained with them and they've explained why they use certain techniques, I listened closely.

A huge question asked in the martial art world is "How do you know if your life or death techniques work? Have someone tried to kill you?" I have been fortunate to learn from many men who have faced those odds way before I ever had to. I was lucky enough to have teachers who taught from trial and error that came from reality. So my schooling came from a different direction than the usual. Most people haven't been blessed to have this experience, so most don't know just how far violence can go. I'm not saying that you have to be stabbed or shot to have been through stuff, but you learn and grow from pain and necessity, not from theory and bravado.

Another misconception is that attackers on the street aren't trained. I personally know that that isn't true. The most common style you'll see in the street is boxing, but its isn't the only one. I can't understand why some of you think that a criminal can't have trained. Why is that so unbelievable? Learning to fight doesn't make you a better man or citizen. It makes you a better fighter. And assuming that the other guy isn't trained is a fool's mistake. You should always train and fight like the man in front of you knows just as much. That way if he is just as good he won't get the initial jump on you because you never underestimated him. So that's a question that many of you should ask yourself: Are you training to beat up guys who can't fight? Or are you trying to be ready for anybody and anything? If you are going to assume, you'd better assume the worst case scenario, because that kind of mindset will force you to prepare for whatever you may fear.

So in closing, the probability that you may be chosen as a victim is very possible. Very high indeed. But only you can prepare yourself to show the attacker that he was dead wrong. Find yourself a teacher who has experience with more than just drunks and homeless people. Someone who has experience with more than just other schoolmates and affiliates. When you want to kick a habit like drinking or drugs, your sponsor is a former addict or drunk. They wouldn't send you to someone who never got high or drunk and couldn't relate to what you're going through for good reason: They couldn't teach or help you to overcome because they lack the REAL EXPERIENCE. Same with an instructor.
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Respectfully,

Jonathan

"Some of us are like a 10 speed bike; most of us have gears we never use." - Joe Eigo

"the greatest gift that martial arts can give is destruction of the ego"

"Life is just a mountain, and each martial art is just another way to the top."

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re:Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending - 2006/11/26 19:11 [quote:c284dd73bd="Jonathan"]Once he threw me into his car, his wife was not happy about that one.[/quote:c284dd73bd]
Need to agree with his wife, training should be on defined periods of times, or else someone can react instictively and an injury can very well occure.

[quote:c284dd73bd="Jonathan"]It was all in good training though, he always encourages his students to use whatever they can to survive.[/quote:c284dd73bd]
On the street - You know how it starts, but never how it ends.
This is the reason for the two street laws I was thought:
1. Try to avoid it as much as possible.
2. If violance starts - with each move give you all you have, there might not be a next move...

[quote:c284dd73bd="Jonathan"]My instructor had a knife pulled on him once. He tells me he would have handled it differently but his first reaction was to grab the aggressors hand. While someone else grabbed the other arm. They just held him there and talked to him. Anyone trained in how to use a knife knows that is one of the worst positions to be in, by flicking your wrist you can use the knife to cut the defenders hand very easyly.[/quote:c284dd73bd]
This is when adrenaline takes over.
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re:Probability Of Being Attacked and Defending - 2006/11/27 05:17 [quote:d0f9e4460c="student"][quote:d0f9e4460c="Jonathan"]Once he threw me into his car, his wife was not happy about that one.[/quote:d0f9e4460c]
Need to agree with his wife, training should be on defined periods of times, or else someone can react instictively and an injury can very well occure.
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We were sparring at the time, it wasn't like he did it just because.
Respectfully,

Jonathan

"Some of us are like a 10 speed bike; most of us have gears we never use." - Joe Eigo

"the greatest gift that martial arts can give is destruction of the ego"

"Life is just a mountain, and each martial art is just another way to the top."

www.arniscalgary.com
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