There is big debate about Taekwondo history.
Taekwondo is Korean Martial Art. It's not Japanese or Chinese ( Karate or Kung Fu).
Korean History Provides the fact Taekwondo is derived from Sa Bak Do, Ship Pal Ki, Hwarang do, Taekyun. Its Hybrid form of all Korean Martial Arts into one name called Taekwondo.
Uniform/ Belt Rank System is univeral in all Martial Arts including Taekwondo, Karate, Kung Fu.
General Choi the founder of tkd was japanese trained in Shotokan.he spent many years in japan, so it was also heavily influenced by shotokan,which got its influence from okinawa,which go its influence from china.and so on and so on.
These origination topics get so out of control.the fighting arts started with the first guy who took a poke at someone.<br><br>Post edited by: paul40, at: 2010/01/24 14:27
An important sidenote, General Choi's style of TKD is not the "Official Style" of korea any longer. The art has evolved primarily into a sport and now looks pretty much nothing like karate (at least in Korea).
KoreanTaekwondo wrote:
The first line of the post is correct.There is big debate about Taekwondo history.
Taekwondo is Korean Martial Art. It's not Japanese or Chinese ( Karate or Kung Fu).
Korean History Provides the fact Taekwondo is derived from Sa Bak Do, Ship Pal Ki, Hwarang do, Taekyun. Its Hybrid form of all Korean Martial Arts into one name called Taekwondo.
Uniform/ Belt Rank System is univeral in all Martial Arts including Taekwondo, Karate, Kung Fu.
The second line is perhaps a matter of opinion as to when does something become something else.
The Third "Korean History..." paragraph is fallacious.
The last paragraph is just wrong.
Hi,Taekwondo is a martial art that in "todays" form of self defense has evolved by combining many different styles of martial arts that existed in Korea over the last 2,000 years and some martial arts styles from countries that surround Korea. Taekwondo incorporates the abrupt linear movements of Karate and the flowing, circular patterns of Kung-fu with native kicking techniques...Taekwondo first appeared in the Koguryo kingdom and all that we need to know is whereever the origin might be but the only thing we need to focus is that,today it is the best for the self defense..great day.
Last edited by shisoshin; 07-03-2010 at 05:51 AM.
kate - you have parasited your kids class promo material
in karate forum to a post on kyokushin karate
as 'the best'..
as to "taekwondo first appeared in the koguryu kingdom"
thats about two thousand years ago, whereas the name 'taekwondo' and the organisations promoting that
name arose after wwII the name being apparently
submitted in 1955..
whatever was practicd two thousand years ago, it wasnt
called "taekwondo", and couldnt have been such as the
tkd now played as an olympic sport..
nless you claim that taekwondo is not taekwondo, then
your other claim that taekwondo "is the best for the
self defense", is simply ridiculous..
as to the black belt system, and the kata of taekwondo
these are also not two thousand years old but originate
from the shotokan karate taught by gen. choi in japan
for funakoshi sensei, when choi was his nidan [2nd dan
black belt], before creating, 'taekwondo' in korea..
this is not to denigrate korean martial artists,
whatever they call their art, but lets not rewrite
history with simplistic and wrong statements or
for that matter silly claims as to 'the best for
self defence'..
to context, 'karate' didnt exist until around wwII
either, and before being taken from okinawa, its birthplace, to japan, there was no japanese karate..
karate of okinwa is a synthisis of indiginous okinawa te and chinese ma from around the southern shaolinji
area of fujian province china, yet it is wrong to state
simply that karate existed thousands of years ago
because there were chinese fighting systems way
back then.. that would be a corruption of truth..
same advice as in karate forum; start your own thread
call it 'kids karate' which is what you are promoting
each time, with the same webpage from each post,
instead of parasiting your promot material onto
other threads of other ma..
ie, have your say.. whatever you want to say..
but be up front about it..
shisoshin wrote:
Good post. Your stuff is pretty much right on except i think the word you are looking for is "Parrot....", not "Parasite....".kate - you have parasited your kids class promo material
instead of parasiting your promot material onto
other threads of other ma..
ie, have your say.. whatever you want to say..
but be up front about it..
sure earl, she is parrotting the same promo, but by
parasiting it to other posts [tkd and karate forums]..
whatever it is in it's history taekwondo had gone so far and with high representation from great passion , iy is the will and self determination that creates taekwondo world class
Last edited by shisoshin; 07-03-2010 at 05:52 AM.
I love Tae Kwon Do. Have practcied it for well over 20 years now and teach it passionately. That said, it is a victim of itself. In it's old school form it is truly a fantastic and well rounded art. From what I know, it has direct influences from Shotokan and perhaps also Shorei Ryu as well as from some of the older Korean arts. It's a blend no doubt. But an effective one.
The problem is that over the years it's been "sportified", commercialized, bastardized, and watered down. This to the point that today you have no idea what you'll find when walking into a TKD dojang. It may be solid, street effective stuff or it may be a lot of sport and a lot of fluff. It's my personal opinion that as TKD's reputation began to disintegrate, people have been looling for anything to try to justify it and make it seem "more" legit. Part of this is to make wild claims about it's history and origins to make it seem older or more "original" than its Japanese counterparts.
There's no shame in it's lineage being connected to other arts. That may even make it more significant in that it has historic roots but also has a flavor and personality that is uniquely Korean. Hanging onto unmerited and simply untrue claims only serves to discredit the one making said claims.
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