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47MartialMan
02-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Judo, outside of Japan, appears to be misunderstood.

It is a hell of a combat study given the proper teacher.

Rajah
02-18-2009, 07:41 AM
Not in all places out of Japan. Judo was seen in the world wars on the battlefield and parts of it were taught to the marines all the way up to 2000. However, I would say that most people don't realize that if you train in ALL of Judo thatit is a complete martial art system with strikes,throws,locks,self defense, ground work it is really good but most people don't see that. However, Jigoro Kano did not mean for Judo to be a jutsu but rather a way of life as opposed to just a self defense

47MartialMan
02-20-2009, 05:03 AM
Did you know that Mr Kano used to call it "Kano Jiu Jitsu, then "Kano Jiudo"?

Rajah
02-20-2009, 08:36 AM
yeah it was called that for a long time

47MartialMan
04-09-2009, 12:31 AM
Reading about what Judo had been is not the same as having practiced it in a era and culture did not fully accept it. Additionally, many were not prepared for its effectiveness, per almost some of it is now common knowledge or method.

Mtripp
07-05-2009, 02:26 AM
It was never called "jiudo." Yes, prior to the 1886 police matches Kano Jujutsu was used along with Kano Judo. After those matches Kano insisted the word "Judo" be used alone so as to be apart from the old jujutsu styles he felt Judo was superior to.

lowkickr
07-05-2009, 06:51 AM
One should note however, that he did not consider judo superior in technique, but superior in human development.

lowkickr
12-27-2009, 10:10 PM
On a further note it was also the throwing techniques that began to separate Judo from jujitsu in the Western world. Judo if trained in the Eastern sense is indeed a very valid self defense system, but as I said before in another post it really works best when blended with another style to form a hybrid that offers all of the tactical and strategic means of a total self defense system.

osrkd_101
12-27-2009, 11:00 PM
we don't train in judo per se. but we do look at the throws and learn them to a degree so we can better defend against them and look at the weaknesses. trust me, it's not the throws that are the weak parts. it's the brief time after the throw that we usually capatalize on.

lowkickr
12-28-2009, 03:54 AM
I know there are different variables for every encounter, but if someone is able to perform a technique after being thrown, then they were thrown in a sport environment or by a sport Judo player. For example, a simple ogoshi ( hip toss) on the concrete or asphalt and the fight is over. Something I was taught long ago, and I think is a good phrase to remember to differentiate between sport and combat. "We don't throw to pin, we throw to win."

osrkd_101
12-28-2009, 04:18 AM
good point